The season is barely over, however we’re already on to 2025, and a number of the most helpful instruments for Ottoneu managers are out to assist us. Early Steamer Projections are out and Justin Vibber has pulled them into the primary push of the Ottoneu Surplus Calculator (SC) which implies we’ve got some early, tough values on gamers for 2025.
How a lot ought to we depend on these values? Not very a lot. Early Steamer projections can be lacking lots of context (like the place some gamers are taking part in, what roles will appear to be, and what gamers gained’t be prepared for Opening Day) and the default values in Surplus Calculator are tough. They’re designed to be simple to create and simple to make use of, so Justin is ready to share one thing, however even he’ll let you know he doesn’t use these values for his auctions or keepers or arbitration.
However that doesn’t imply we will’t be taught slightly bit from these early projections and values. I got down to discover some shocking or at the least attention-grabbing projections and I did – Ronald Acuña Jr. projected to be a prime 5 worth in simply 133 video games! Corbin Carroll again within the prime 10 OF! After which I came upon Evan Carter.
Evan Carter regarded like a strong $10 OF a 12 months in the past and he had a fairly not-great 2024, so you’ll anticipate his projections to replicate some concern. Accidents restricted him to 162 PA (word that’s PA, not video games) and even these 162 PA weren’t good. After posting a small-sample .435 wOBA in 2023 (and a .398 wOBA within the post-season), Carter slumped to a .278 wOBA this season. That introduced his profession numbers (common season solely) right down to .327.
That’s nonetheless fairly good. Solely 60 hitters certified for the batting title whereas posting a wOBA higher than .327 in 2024.
But, when you go search for Evan Carter within the Surplus Calculator, you’ll see a giant fats goose egg within the “worth” column.
That’s proper, $0. Zero (0) {dollars}. That’s under no circumstances what we’d anticipate from a younger hitter with an excellent debut and a fairly respectable 299 profession PA, together with post-season. Why is Steamer so low on Carter?!
Nicely, Steamer actually isn’t that low on Carter. Steamer initiatives him for a .322 wOBA. That isn’t nice, it’s not even as much as his profession ranges, but it surely’s not $0-level-bad. Listed here are a number of different guys with comparable wOBA projections:
Attention-grabbing, proper? That’s a bunch of dudes with comparable values ($7-$8), then Bellinger, Carter, and Vaughn as outliers. So what provides?
One is that not all wOBA’s are created equal. wOBA is the perfect easily-accessible stat to make use of for a short-hand for Ottoneu values – it successfully measures a gamers fee of manufacturing using weights similar to the weights used to calculate factors in Ottoneu leagues. However these weights aren’t precisely the identical.
Listed here are three extraordinarily totally different hitters who all had very comparable 2024 wOBA:
Identical wOBA, Totally different Factors
Ottoneu factors are linear-weights based mostly and but these three guys put up the identical linear-weights manufacturing by wOBA however not by factors. The hole in in how these gamers achieved their wOBA.
Raleigh was probably the most prolific energy hitter of the bunch, however had the worst OBP and a horrific batting common. Arraez had a fantastic common and excellent OBP, however no energy. Abrams had an identical OBP to Raleigh, however a significantly better common, although much less energy. However he had far more energy than Arraez and he stole probably the most bases.
wOBA valued all of those guys on the identical stage, however Ottoneu Factors didn’t as a result of Ottoneu factors, relative to wOBA, favors hits over walks, HR over all different types of getting on base, and SB over…uh…not stealing bases.
So return to that checklist of projected 2025 values. Not all wOBA is created equal and Carter doesn’t have the ability Stanton or O’Neill have, but it surely’s not like Jake McCarthy is a 30-homer risk. Carter, nonetheless, additionally doesn’t run like McCarthy. So that would clarify why wOBA is similar however Ottoneu manufacturing isn’t. However I believe there’s something else at play.
That could possibly be place eligibility, in fact. Being 1B solely has to harm Andrew Vaughn. However Juan Yepez can also be 1B solely and Carter is an OF – which is a fairly weak place as of late, I believe.
When taking a look at Arraez, Raleigh and Abrams I in contrast wOBA to pts/PA and that was intentional. wOBA is a fee stat that successfully measures how a lot a hitter is producing every time they step to the plate. Two gamers with equivalent charges, however over totally different numbers of PA, may have the identical wOBA (assuming every participant actually has the identical variety of hits, doubles, triples, HR, walks, and so forth., and so forth., and so forth., simply pro-rated to their variety of PA). So wOBA will most carefully relate to a per-PA measure of Ottoneu scoring.
However Ottoneu worth is derived from factors per sport. This isn’t laborious to know. Return and take a look at Raleigh, Arraez, and Abrams. Which of these three would you like? With simply these numbers, you may make a case for Raleigh or Abrams. However what if I advised you Arraez had practically 4.5 PA/G whereas Abrams was underneath 4.4 and Raleigh was at 4.1? Out of the blue their P/G get a lot nearer, with Abrams nonetheless on the prime, however Raleigh falling to 3rd and Arraez within the center.
So let’s add three columns to that earlier desk evaluating 2025 projections:
Evan Carter wOBA Comps
Participant
PA
G
PA/G
wOBA
Worth
Giancarlo Stanton
514
122
4.21
0.323
$7
Tyler O’Neill
541
126
4.29
0.323
$8
Andrew Vaughn
630
144
4.38
0.323
$0
Jake McCarthy
562
131
4.29
0.323
$8
Cody Bellinger
596
136
4.38
0.323
$11
Michael Toglia
589
139
4.24
0.322
$8
Evan Carter
539
141
3.82
0.322
$0
Juan Yepez
561
128
4.38
0.321
$7
MJ Melendez
524
125
4.19
0.321
$5
JJ Belday
659
150
4.39
0.321
$8
Now that’s attention-grabbing. Each a kind of gamers is projected for 4.19-4.39 PA/G, besides Carter, who’s down at 3.82. Justin tells me that if he boosted Carter to 4.2 PA/G – no different adjustments, no improved stats, simply an additional 0.38 PA per sport – Carter turns into a $5 participant.
So is he a $0 participant or a $5 participant. Nicely, magnificence is within the eye of the beholder. Is Steamer precisely projecting that Carter can be a platoon bat, commonly pulled from video games earlier than his 4th PA and definitely earlier than a fifth? Or will he hit lefties sufficient to recover from 4 PA/G when he begins? If the previous, he could be a $0 participant. If the latter, he could be $5 (per Steamer, at this level, anyway).
And, to be frank, none of us actually know that. Bruce Bochy might need an concept, however the remainder of us are simply guessing and your guess is nearly as good as mine. Nevertheless it makes a giant distinction.
In fact, this isn’t particularly about Carter. All projected values have this baked into them. Each participant has a projected statline and that interprets to a projected pts/PA and each participant has a projected PA/G that may be merged with their pts/PA to create a pts/G projection and that may lastly be used to create a worth. Add in positional eligibility and all of the assumptions made by the particular person/system creating the projections and the particular person/system translating these projections into values and…woof, there may be lots of variability there.
Make sure to concentrate on that whenever you take a look at any projected worth.